Uppercase ß ?
Friday, 30 June 2017 · 3 messages
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C. M. Sperberg-McQueen30 Jun 2017 02:24 #
From Die Zeit, I learn that new orthographic rules issued by the Rat für deutsche Rechtschreibung specify that ß / esszett / sharp s shall now have an uppercase form.
From the comments there, I learn further that codepoint
U+1E9E has already been assigned to this character.
Will the default collation used for upper-case be changed
to map U+00DF to U+1E9E?
I notice that lower-case already maps U+1E9E to U+00DF,
in the version 7.9 on my disk. (Am I already that far out of date? Sigh.)
best regards,
Michael Sperberg-McQueen
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Andy Bunce30 Jun 2017 15:30 #
Hi Michael,
I am no expert here but I read from my twitter sources [1]
that the stability_policy [2] is key here.
Regards
/Andy
https://twitter.com/FakeUnicode/status/880720026491383809
http://unicode.org/policies/stability_policy.html#Case_Pair
Quoted text · C. M. Sperberg-McQueen · 32 lines
On 29 June 2017 at 23:24, C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <cmsmcq at blackmesatech.com> wrote: > From Die Zeit, I learn that new orthographic rules issued by the > Rat für deutsche Rechtschreibung specify that ß / esszett / sharp s > shall now have an uppercase form. > > From the comments there, I learn further that codepoint > U+1E9E has already been assigned to this character. > > Will the default collation used for upper-case be changed > to map U+00DF to U+1E9E? > > I notice that lower-case already maps U+1E9E to U+00DF, > in the version 7.9 on my disk. (Am I already that far out of > date? Sigh.) > > best regards, > > Michael Sperberg-McQueen > > -- > **************************************************************** > * C. M. Sperberg-McQueen, Black Mesa Technologies LLC > * http://www.blackmesatech.com > * http://cmsmcq.com/mib > * http://balisage.net > **************************************************************** > > > > >
CG
Hi Michael,
Same rights for characters, same rights for same-gender relationships… Things are moving forward in Germany ;)
It was about time to see the upper-case Eszett (ẞ) emerge as official alternative [1]. A few German type setters have been using the character for some years (it was added to Unicode in 2008), but it will take some time until we will have good-looking upper-case Eszetts in standard fonts (even the lower-case Eszett often looks like a stranger in many professional font sets, because it is exclusively used in German language).
Regarding the assymetric case conversion (the lower-case conversion of 'ẞ' yields 'ß', while we currently get 'SS' when converting 'ß' to upper-case), I guess that this will remain the standard, as SS is still a legal alternative (at least at the moment). – Andy’s response, which I’ve just seen, seems to confirm this assumption.
All the best,
Christian
[1] Bei Schreibung mit Großbuchstaben schreibt man SS. Daneben ist auch die Verwendung des Großbuchstabens ẞ möglich. Beispiel: Straße – STRASSE – STRAẞE. (http://www.rechtschreibrat.com/DOX/rfdr_Regeln_2017.pdf, §25 E3)
Quoted text · C. M. Sperberg-McQueen · 31 lines
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:24 AM, C. M. Sperberg-McQueen < cmsmcq at blackmesatech.com> wrote: > From Die Zeit, I learn that new orthographic rules issued by the > Rat für deutsche Rechtschreibung specify that ß / esszett / sharp s > shall now have an uppercase form. > > From the comments there, I learn further that codepoint > U+1E9E has already been assigned to this character. > > Will the default collation used for upper-case be changed > to map U+00DF to U+1E9E? > > I notice that lower-case already maps U+1E9E to U+00DF, > in the version 7.9 on my disk. (Am I already that far out of > date? Sigh.) > > best regards, > > Michael Sperberg-McQueen > > -- > **************************************************************** > * C. M. Sperberg-McQueen, Black Mesa Technologies LLC > * http://www.blackmesatech.com > * http://cmsmcq.com/mib > * http://balisage.net > **************************************************************** > > > >
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